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Age Verification Laws: Surveillance in Disguise? - Noelle Perdue | Rapid Response #9

Though they may be well-intentioned, there are major problems with age verification laws—and if/when implemented, they will change your digital life for the worse.

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My guest today is Noelle Perdue.

Noelle Perdue is a writer, producer, and Internet porn historian with nearly ten years of experience working platform-side for multiple mainstream and independent adult companies. Having written everything from Food Network porn parodies to legally binding terms and conditions, much of her current work explores obscenity law and how pornography’s history can influence our digital and political futures. Noelle’s writing work has been published on Wired, Washington Post, Pornhub, Slate, Brazzers, Input, etc., she’s also been featured as an industry expert on multiple programs including the BBC, CBC, The Guardian, Rolling Stone, and on Netflix's 2023 documentary Money Shot.

Perhaps most impressively, Noelle is the first-ever third-timer on the Urgent Futures Podcast! She also runs the excellent Porn World with Noelle Perdue newsletter—so pop over there and subscribe for smart takes on spicy topics! This essay is a great companion piece to the episode, charting what makes age verification laws so fraught:

Porn World
Are you 18 or over? Are you my mother? Are you my sexy surveillance state?
It’s time we talked about age restrictions…
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In this Rapid Response episode, we got into all things age verification laws—a wave of legislation spreading across the U.S., Europe, and beyond. These laws, often framed as protecting children online, require platforms to verify a user’s age before allowing access to adult content. But the implementation varies widely: from Louisiana’s driver’s license–based verification to the UK’s repeated attempts at a national age-check system, to France’s ongoing court battles over platform compliance.

Supporters see them as necessary guardrails in an age of ubiquitous digital media, especially with regard to “protecting minors” from “harmful” content. Critics (like Noelle and myself) argue these measures threaten user privacy, create massive data-collection risks, and risk handing governments or private companies unprecedented power over what people can see online.

While this might seem like an isolated issue in the adult industry, it’s anything but; age verification have become a frontline issue in the larger fight over Internet freedoms, online anonymity, and the future of digital rights.

If you dig this episode, I encourage you to check out my past two conversations with Noelle (and while you’re there, please subscribe to the channel on YouTube! It really helps in boost the show in our algorithmically mediated hellscape digital existence).

Noelle Perdue: The Three Types of Eroticism, The Trevails of a Foot-Fetish Fetishist, Homoflexibility, Looners, Self-Labeling, & More | Riffs & Speculations #1:

Noelle Perdue: What Everyone Gets Wrong About Pornography—According to a Porn Historian | Urgent Futures #22:

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