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My guest today is Brett Scott.
Brett Scott has spent over a decade exploring the architecture of global money and big finance, and is constantly on the search for ways to rewire our economic system. In 2013 he published The Heretic’s Guide to Global Finance: Hacking the Future of Money (Pluto Press), and in 2022 I published Cloudmoney: Cash, Cards, Crypto and the War for our Wallets (Penguin / Harper Collins). He has written for some of the world’s biggest publications, has appeared on major channels, and has spoken at over 300 events in over 30 countries.
People call him many things – financial activist, economic hacker – but deep down he says he’s also an artist, and in Altered States of Monetary Consciousness he’ll take you on creative journey to bring our economic system to life using visual imagery and metaphor.
Brett is one of those special transdisciplinary thinkers—rooted in deep understandings of economics and finance—that I absolutely love to host conversations with. In this case, it was prompted by a shared frustration with how transhumanists believe about life-extension and immortality (typified by the actions of Bryan Johnson, of “Don’t Die” fame).
"Don't Die"? What Bryan Johnson Gets Wrong
Bryan Johnson, the centimillionaire biohacker, entrepreneur, and investor who spends $2 million each year in a well-documented attempt to maintain the body of an 18-year-old, has become the mascot for a time-tested fantasy among the Silicon Valley set (especially among transhumanists and
As expected, this conversation gets into so much more than I even expected, including crypto, central bank digital currencies, degrowth/post-growth, and more. We have to remember that so much of the (geo)political nonsense we’re experiencing is ultimately downstream of the economy—and Brett is somebody who’s illuminating the problems, paradoxes, and responses in accessible language. Make sure to give him a follow and subscribe to ASOMOCO:
Another episode you might like:
Michael Mezzatesta: Why Isn't the Economy Working? An Economist's Case for Post-Growth | #23
Welcome to the Urgent Futures podcast, the show that finds signal in the noise. Each week, I sit down with leading thinkers whose research, concepts, and questions clarify the chaos, from culture to the cosmos.
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Find more episodes of Urgent Futures at: youtube.com/@UrgentFutures. Past conversations include Taylor Lorenz, Lisa Messeri, Legacy Russell, William E. Rees, Renée DiResta, and more. Here is another recent episode with Katie Bogen and Dr. Hani Chaabo, hosts of the Super Humanizer podcast:
